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Instrument Section C-151 to C-175, Maker - Joseph Scates

There are currently around 12 Scates instruments in the Collection.  The Wes Williams archive states:
"He was a former Wheatstone Tuner who set up as a maker sometime around 1844. The 40 Frith St. address was the house of his father Joseph, who in 1839 ran a 'Stationer and Porteusian Bible Warehouse', and where Scates Jnr is listed as a musician . He appears to have moved to 32 New Bond St. from 1847-49.  He quickly sold out to George Case and by 1851 had set up in Dublin as:

Joseph Scates, Professor of the Concertina,
28 Westmoreland St,Dublin
11, Wellington Rd Ballsbridge

After 1851, Scates traded from various addresses, the final directory entry appearing in 1866:

1852:Rathmines Rd
1856: 26 College Green
1858: 27 College Green & 8 Church Lane
1862: 27, College Green & 8 Church Lane, Dublin; & 1,Longford Tce, Kingstown
1864 to 1866: 15 Westmoreland St

Many, if not all, of his Dublin labelled instruments were supplied by Lachenal or Jones ."

The Chris Flint Archive and website has much family tree information about Scates, with illustrations of many early models.  Full URLs of these Joseph Scates information sites are at: http://www.scatesconcertinas.com/ - and - www.concertinas.org.uk/others.htm#Scates  and selected items are described here:

C-151   Joseph Scates No19:- 48-Key Joseph Scates English system, from the 32 New Bond Street address. One of the earliest recorded, the instrument has hand-cut Amboyna ends, ivory keys, square-ended brass reeds, 4-fold green leather bellows with early gold-star papers and silk reinforced bottom bout.

C.152    Joseph Scates No 215:- A Joseph Scates 48-Key English system, Serial Number 215, hand-cut solid rosewood frets, ends, an early model with the dealer's label, both on instrument and in case-lid, of John Alvey Turner (P24 at Link). Ivory keys, square-ended brass reeds, ("J. Scates" stamped on each reed pan).

C.153    Joseph Scates No 317:-  A Joseph Scates 48-Key English system, Serial Number 317, hand-cut solid rosewood frets, ends, an early model with the earliest "Frith Street" address label, thus an early model.

C.154 Joseph Scates No 451:- A Joseph Scates 48-Key Baritone English system, hand-cut solid rosewood frets with bevelled edges, rosewood veneer over mahogany side frames. A later model, with Scates's post-1851 Dublin address label; "Joseph Scates Manufacturer, 26 College Green, Dublin". Later "Floral on Gilt"papers . The instrument may have been supplied to Scates's order by George Case.

C.155 Joseph Scates No 508:- A Joseph Scates 48-Key English system, with hand-cut Amboyna-veneered frets, with the later "85 Renshaw Street, Liverpool" label, to where Scates had moved after May 1849. The label indicates that the instruments were "from New Bond Street, London", and thus may have been made for him - though the stamped "J Scates" label, in the same size as on early models, is stamped between the keys on the action board.  

C.157 Joseph Scates No 1666/1667:-      A Joseph Scates 48-Key English system, Serial Number 1666 (Pans & Bellows 1667), hand-cut solid rosewood frets, with scrolled nickel-silver corner inlays and deep Case-style bellows frames. A later model, with one of Scates's post-1851 Dublin address labels pasted internally; (the 27 College Green variant). Many internal parts indicate that the instrument may have been supplied to Scates's order by George Case or another London maker.

C.159  Joseph Scates No 537:-  A Joseph Scates 48-Key Baritone English system, with hand-cut solid rosewood frets with veneered side-frames. A later model, with Scates's post-1851 "26 College Green, Dublin" address label overlaying his Renshaw Street, Liverpool label, on unusual full-width chamois baffles that are glued to the inner frame-edge of the reed-frames, and thus show as a white strip between the action-sides and fret-frames. Flat-topped ivory keys. The instrument may have been supplied to Scates's Liverpool or Dublin shops by workers at his New Bond Street manufactory, though the reed-pans are both signed "Joseph Scates" in his own hand.

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